Thursday, November 6, 2008

Yellowstone Sunrise...

Hello everyone and welcome to another addition of Sky Watch Friday. Today's post comes from Yellowstone again, the nice thing about spending two plus weeks there in the fall is it gives me plenty of photographs to choose from to keep this blog going when I am not out shooting anything else.

This photograph was taken the morning of October 2, 2008 between Mammoth and Roosevelt near the Blacktail Plateau Drive. It was a beautiful sunrise in Yellowstone, but then again every sunrise in Yellowstone is beautiful.

Now for the technical side and request for assistance. The photo was taken at 3200 ISO, hence the noise, but I am still amazed at the limited noise for that high an ISO. My D70 and D2X had noise like that above 400 ISO. My photoshop skills lack, so I know nothing about HDR. I was able to bring back most of the foreground in the raw settings and help things out with layer masks. The part that I don't get is the colors always look better and the photos just look better until I upload them for the web, then they seem to wash out. I save my photos as 72 dpi jpegs (save as) that I am going to use on the web. Should I be saving them in CS2 under save for web? Does this make a difference, will it preserve colors?

72 comments:

Coca Cutie said...

Amazing burning Sky Bradley! I love the contrast.
Happy Sky Watch!!!

Woody said...

Sorry I can't help you on the Tech side, but that is a great photograph!

Ivar Ivrig said...

A superb sunrise Bradley. Well captured :-)

Haney said...

I may have to try this out. Living at over 10,000 feet for the past week, I think I may have some to share.

kjpweb said...

The glory of color in a great landscape.
To the color problem:
There are two things to consider, if you upload images to the web.
1. The color space. The safest bet is to work with sRGB - as it is what most settings are tuned on. If you capture with Adobe RGB - try setting to sRGB in your camera. Same goes for every step on the way.
2. Since monitors work with 72 to 96dpi - it is not the reduction from 3oo to 72 dpi causing problems. Most of the time it is
the software on the server bringing on changes. Especially, when sized are being changed.
Best way to go there is to upload the filesize you are going to display. Anything else will have a (negative) impact on the overall image quality.
Hope that helps.
Cheers, Klaus

Lilli & Nevada said...

Wow Bradley this a fantastic photo, When we were there a couple of yrs ago we never seen any like this Just beautiful. Thanks for the stop over on my blog

Photo Cache said...

Beautiful sunset shot. I too am now aware of "noises" and how to reduce them :D

Thanks for dropping by. Looking forward to more of your shots from your trip.

Torsdag said...

You are lucky to stay at places like Yellowstone. I can only say "PERFECT" shot like your last SWF.
Have a nice weekend
Hartmut

Anemone said...

Just marvellous...

Nice weekend.

Sara G said...

WOW, that photo is just awesome. The prettiest colors I have seen!!
Thanks so much for sharing it with us.
Happy SWF!!
Take care.

WillThink4Wine said...

I think it is simply breathtaking! I could drink that in for hours!

pinoy said...

awesome colors!!!

Arija said...

radley, that is great sky shot and I absolutely adore your portrait of the Mule Deer below!

Louise said...

Noise? Apparently I like noise. I love the way the colors are in the sky in this photo, the the greyness below them is perfect.

Your EG Tour Guide said...

The sky is incredibly orange! Very nice capture.

Dewdrop said...

I can't help you with the technical questions, but WOW! Great capture. I need to get out there to experience that first hand. Amazing! Stunning! Breathtaking! Stependous!

NovaS said...

love yellowstone it is really amazing, i was fascinated by the sunset...HERE

Tanya said...

Wow, that sky is on fire! Love it! Happy skywatch :)

Texas Travelers said...

What Klaus said. Also, add a little extra saturation before you resize and "save for web".

Great photo. Yellowstone is one of my favorite spots. Great photo. I can imagine what it looked like in person.

Troy

Kathleen said...

It makes you want to sing "It's a Bautiful day!!"

fishing guy said...

Bradley: You made a great sunrise capture in Yellowstone.

Angie said...

That is stupendous! The colours in the sky are just glorious.

imac said...

Hi Brad, love the colours you captured.

Kyle said...

Wow, what a gorgeous canvas of colors, Bradley. Beautiful shot!

G. Crappy said...

Absolutely stunning!

Kim said...

This is a great photo. It seems like someone already answered your question, but it is definitely the color profile. Go to Image>Mode>Assign Profile and make sure it is set to sRGB. For printing make sure it is set to Adobe RGB. I hope this helps :)

Bobbie in Hawaii said...

What a remarkable sunrise. I never have worked with such a high ISO, but I don't see a problem with this image at all!

Bestemor Aud said...

It was very nice with the kind of three differntlevels in the photo. Makes me dwelling.
Beautiful with the red/yellow sky and the white/grey snow!

Pearl Maple said...

Have no information on the technical aspects but can say for sure that is a beautiful & colorful photo that is a delight to see in Sky Watch Friday.

ellen b said...

That's an amazing Sunrise! Just beautiful...

Ruth said...

Majestic picture. I don't live near any mountains so enjoyed your entry very much.

2sweetnsaxy said...

I don't know all the technicals. I have Photoshop too. I have two copies of my photos, the original size and a smaller size, probably 8x10 or so for uploading to the web. When I save the smaller one I also have the option to "Save for Web" and it automatically reduces the file size without changing the quality and shows me the before and after before I save it.

Thanks for your comment on my post, It Was Just A Dream. :-) Have a great SWF! :-)

Reader Wil said...

A great sunrise! Very colourful!

Deborah Godin said...

Lovely shot, looks like the moutains are "sleeping in"!

Carver said...

That's a gorgeous landscape. The sky, the mountains, everything about it are beautiful.

reluctantfarmchik said...

This is, apparently, the only type of "noise" I can tolerate. It is perfect. What a stunning shot!

joie said...

Great shot.. beautiful sunrise.. love the colors..

Shannon said...

Gorgeous color and very pretty. Warms me up just looking at it..

Patricia said...

I loved the colors! Beautiful photo,unfortunatelly I know little about your problem :( sorry,
cheers,
My blog

Laura ~Peach~ said...

WONDERFUL photo! just breathtaking!
Happy sky watching!

Eds said...

Uuhhhh! Such a pretty sky! It's wonderful! Thanks for sharing! :)

My Skywatch

napaboaniya said...

I'm loving the flaming red sky of yours :)

esnorway said...

Great nice pic have good weekend

Brit' Gal Sarah said...

Stunning picture Brad, I would love to visit there

Yen said...

That is just amazing! Lovely shot!:)

Mine's, HERE. If you get a chance:)
Happy SWF!

Sandradb said...

Awesome sky colors - ideal for postcard. Thank you for your visit and greetings from Croatia.

indicaspecies said...

Not in a position to answer your questions, but this photograph is brilliant. Amazing capture of the morning hues!

- celine
http://indicainq8.wordpress.com

MumbaiiteAnu said...

Amazing fiery sunrise.
Fabulous shot.

vincibene said...

Fantastic picture!

RuneE said...

Klaus has said most of it, but if you also intend to print your photographs or use it for other purposes - shoot in Adobe RGB since this has a much larger colour space, then convert to sRGB before posting. Some last retouching may be necessary due to the smaller colour space of sRGB.

Oh, and no wonder you have lots of good material with that kind of place to go!

Ecobirder said...

Great Shot. Yellowstone is one of my favorite places on the planet.

Rocky Mtn. Girl said...

WOW... this is magnificent. Amazing. I am in awe. Very nice indeed!!
It looks as if the others have answered your question.
~Michele~
Mountain Retreat- Canada

babooshka said...

As a photographer I like natural best. You did a marvellous job, the sky is such a viibrant yellow.

Debbie said...

What a beautiful sunrise.

Shinade said...

Wonderful...absolutely stunning!! As to your technical question I work in PSP and not Adobe.

But, anytime you save .jpeg form it will limit the values of colors that are in your image.

When saving in .jpeg you are taking a 400 pxi down to 72pxi.

But, I too save mine in this format...it locks down a solid background and makes it more difficult for anyone to lift your watermark.

Or promote your background and tube a part of your image.

So even though the quality may deteriorate some...I think it is the best for mat for uploading your images online.

Mine are here:

http://shinade.blogspot.com/2008/11/swffrom-misty-morn-to-dusky-sunset.html

I had a tough time this week getting any good shots.

Happy SWF:-)))

Shinade said...

Opppsss made a mistek relating to the PXI...my photos download into my PC at 480 pxi...so each camera and each software used may vary!!:-)

Robin said...

Amazing capture! The colors are gorgeous.

(I'm afraid I'm no help at all with the technical side of things. Sorry.)

Denise said...

I don't know too much of the technical side either but this is an incredible photograph and am glad you shared it.

John said...

Amazing shot!

AphotoAday said...

Hi Brad,

It's a great shot, high ISO or not... At this small size I'm not seeing any noise, but I'm sure it's there at larger sizes... (There are software programs that will reduce noise)

But when I clicked on the photo for a larger image I got an image with more vibrancy, which I think was your complaint with your the smaller photo...

Looks like Klaus, Troy (Texas Travelers) and Runee gave you some good information... You should be able to work with JPEGs for your web work, and then go back to your RAW images when you need to make a nice print.

Tootie said...

Wow, a very beautiful sky.

Marie said...

Beautiful SWF photo :)

Mojo said...

What a sight to wake up to! Yeah, I could go for that... definitely.

Jim said...

Boy, that sky looks nice.

Mary said...

Wow, that is simply gorgeous! :)

Z'riz said...

Oh wow! That IS breathtaking! Nice shot!

Wren said...

Can't help with the technical questions, so I'll just sit here and drool over your photos.

SandyCarlson said...

Yellowstone looks dreamy! thanks for that.

Vic said...

beautiful sunrise! :)

Gretchen said...

Absolutely stunning!

reluctantfarmchik said...

HOw beautiful - that certainly is a lovely part of the country!

Mckay K said...

Bradley that is a beautiful shot. I think you are too hard on your self.